Tuesday, 10 October 2006
More Dirty Filthy Politics - Because it won't go away
Readers will see that one reader has been arguing about how our blog of October 3rd is wrong and Democrats have been restrained in their reaction to the Mark Foley scandel. The reader goes on to make other unsubstantiated claims based totally on rumor and inuendo. Most importantly, the reader wants Republicans punished for what the reader believes is withhold information about the filthy text messages Foley sent
Here's an article that reader should read if the reader really believes what he/she writes. The article, based not on speculation but rather the claim of the liberal Harper's magazine. That is that the Democrats offered a writer at Harper's the filthy emails from Foley in May 2006, a good 5 to 6 months prior to the "October Surprise". Now if this claim is true, just who I ask is guilty of not protecting teens but rather using information for political gain?
Note that the Harper's reporter is trying to "damn" the GOP but instead manages to disclose that Democrats knew this information in May 2006 and failed to contact the police. Instead they were shopping the email around to reporters! But the question still is "what" email? You see the first email to the New Orleans teen is not sufficient that most people would think it was actionable. Yes, it's a bit weird that a Congress member asks for a photo, but hey - there are some weird people out there. Perhaps he kept a bulletin board of Pages with whom he'd worked. Of course in hindsight we know this is not the case. But how would it look for the media to have exposed a member of Congress for a pretty benign email because it "freaked out" a teen? Surely someone would have been called "homophobic" at the least.
Hastert says he talked to both the person in charge of Pages and Foley and Foley assured him there would be no more contact. What information was actionable? What was worthy of making a big deal about? If this is the only information Hastert, the GOP or the Democrats had, how can we play Monday Morning Quarterback and indict them?
Shall we follow the Democrats example and now go on a campaign to keep Democrats from getting elected in November 2006 or should we investigate exactly who knew what, when?
Again, I will state my opinion: anyone involved in the cover-up of this filth by Mark Foley should not be re-elected and in fact should be thrown out of Congress on their ear; but I have a real problem with burning the witches at the stake and asking questions later.
Posted By P.Brown at 8:24 PM in Category:News
13 Oct 2006
Let's take a closer look at what I've said...
I haven't said that the Republicans should be punished en masse. Not at all. This is an issue that involved a Congressman who happens to be a Republican and, yes I'll say it, the response of the leadership of the Republican party in the US House.
You have said that the Democrats are going hogwild over this, but then you talk about how the media won't stop talking about it. The media and the Democrats are not the same thing. I realize that you feel that the media is biased in favor of the Democrats - a sentiment I sometimes share - but if there is a scandal or a potential scandal in the water the media goes after it. Regardless of party.
You've said that the Newsbuster article shows that 'the Democrats' were the ones behind this. Yet the Harper's reporter states that his source is someone without ties the the national party. And in his (the reporter's) belief, the source was genuinely appalled by Foley's behavior. And, furthermore, it also shows that this wasn't supposed to be a last minute surprise.
You seem to feel as if it is liberals/Democrats who go after Hastert. Yet, right off the bat, the Washington Times called for the resignation of Speaker Hastert.
Or this from George Will:
It is difficult to read that as other than an accusation: He seems to be not just confessing a coverup but also complaining that the coverup was undone by bad manners. Were it not for Democrats' unsportsmanlike conduct in putting "this thing" forward, it would not be known and would not be disrupting Republicans' storytelling.
Their story, of late, has been that theirs is the lonely burden of defending all that is wholesome. But the problem with claiming to have cornered the market on virtue is that people will get snippy when they spot vice in your ranks."
John Boehner also seemed to leave Hastert out to dry.
Point is, the GOP leadership had been warned about Foley's actions (maybe not specific gaudy emails) for a long time. Nothing was done. They dropped the ball. If a Dem finally let the media know (or it still could be a Repub or an enraged parent) then so be it. Congress is better off without Foley.
But so far, the GOP hasn't helped itself with it's inconsistent stories, it's blaming of Democrats, and its own circular firiing squad.
ED NOTE:First, I applaud you for actually providing sources this time. It's easier to sort out fact from speculation that way. I do note that at least one source is an opinion piece - so we will give it that weight - an opinion, like yours' and mine.
I don't know why it is important to anyone which party brought forth the IM messages. The point I am making is that the Democrats knew about and shopped around the IM messages for months. If their concern had been the kids - they would have gone to the police, not the media.
You agree that the first emails were innoculous. So why blame Hastert because he didn't do anything? It's also important (and the media fails to do this a lot) to keep track of "emails" (which were pretty innoculous) and "IM Messages" (which were full of filth).
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